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 • New Tyre Tender Contract

Posted by madcam at 08-09-2008 21:26
The FVAA is presently drafting an "expression of interest document" for a new tyre contract for the future.
They are asking for constructive feed back on what competitors expect from the tyre.
ie cost/durability/all weather/wet weather/slicks.
They are trying to get the tyre situation sorted for the benefit of all, so your input is appreciated
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 • Re: New Tyre Tender Contract

Posted by dthomas at 09-09-2008 09:08
in my opinion we should have an all weather tyre, compound is not important if we are all on the same thing. however you dont want it to be a slower tyre than we have now. we should also try and get the price down as we currently pay more for the dunlops than v8 supercars pay for their tyres and we are supposed to be the entry level motor sport
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 • Re: New Tyre Tender Contract

Posted by bmaclennan at 09-09-2008 21:50
Come on Dylan you cannot be serious! V8 Supercars get how many sessions from a set of tyres?

Brett.

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 • Re: New Tyre Tender Contract

Posted by dthomas at 10-09-2008 14:48
yes they go through more sets of tyres but that doesnt nagate the fact that we pay more for a set which is half the size of there rubber so material wise is less to produce and our quantities are still high as we have alot more competitors. not to mention the formula vee constitution states "to keep the Formula Vee within the financial reach of the man of moderate means without handicapping ability or encouraging neglect in conditioning cars." meaning keep dollars down (were possible)
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 • Re: New Tyre Tender Contract

Posted by bmaclennan at 10-09-2008 16:45
Dylan, that is somewhat of a utopian view of the sport we belong to. Yes what you have stated may be in the constituion but it is also a subjective statement. By what means do you measure "within the finacial reach of the man of moderate means"? Come to think of it, what is "a man of moderate means"?

What you are neglecting in your argument re V8 tyres and their cost is the marketing benefit that Dunlop recieve from the supply of their tyres to the V8 Supercar category. Dunlop may very well be discounting the price of the tyres and offsetting this against the marketing they recieve. In any case discussing V8's is rather pointless.

We need the FVAA to tender the tyre contract out and deliver us a tyre with the same level of performance and durability as the curent Dunlop tyre at or around the same price as we pay today. Yes cheaper would be better but not through a dramatic sacrifice of the current level of tyre performance.:zz:
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 • Re: New Tyre Tender Contract

Posted by Jouster at 16-09-2008 18:49
I tend to agree with Brett here. I'm new to Vee's but even I can see that comparing anything in a Vee to the V8's is pointless. Dunlop would probably pay the V8 teams to use their tyres considering the exposure they get. Taking into account what they would have handed over to get the exclusive supply rights they probably are paying in reality.

But there's a good point in there still. What do other categories more similar to Vee's pay for tyres? More importantly, what do they cost per meeting/session? The guys in NSW have been put on rations because of the continual need to run new rubber or suffer a performance drop off. So I think maybe the most important thing in determining the real cost is the consistancy of the tyre throughout it's life.

Obviously it's near impossible to create a tyre that has no performace drop but if a manufacturer can provide a tyre that allows drivers to get as little as 2-3 more meetings without being off the pace that should more than offset any initial cost difference.

I know everyone wants to constantly go faster and people will say "it doesn't matter as long as it's not slower" but if it's more even I feel it's more in the spirit of what attracted me to Vee's in the first place.

When was the last time tyres went up anyway?? It's pretty rare for prices to fall over a period of time. I'm hoping the last tender wasn't costed when the AUS$ was at US$0.90+...that could get ugly.

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